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		<title>By: Hrvoje</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-13778</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrvoje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pros: Cheap, huge space
Cons: Everything else

If you have more than one website hosted there, or multiple domains/subdomains, if only one of them reach daily transfer limit, your full account with all domains will get blocked  for full 24 hrs without possibility to enable it within "punish" time.
It's not possible to setup different bandwith or capacity quota per domain, mail or ftp account. Their support is arrogant, they lie, and they often offer only empty phrases for answer. If you can reach em.
For last 5 days I cant login to my account, passwords are somehow changed and their password resetting system is broken. I cant fill ticket because I cannot login. 
If I use my default mail for contact I got automated reply that my mail is already in their database so that I rather fill online ticket. 
I cant call them  because they don't have (LOL) telephone number.
Their security is almost non existent. People reporting hacked sites non stop, slow databases, slow loading, bad support all around.
If you need site to brag with storage capacity use Servage, otherwise avoid like plague.

Servage will let you down when you need it most, like what happened to me today: I cannot upload my work: 600mb big interactive CD for my client because I cant log into my account or FTP, and that's main reason why I paid for servage host.

Several months ago I made and deployed one flash game for my online gaming community (EVE online) into servage.
I suffered slash dot effect, bandwith got sucked and they blocked it for 24 hrs. 
I even offered them money for extra bandwith, but they just said: not possible.
That flash game was made special for big patch day for that game, which lasted 24 hrs and it went offline 4 hrs after deployment. So my several days of work was almost wasted.

They advertise huge monthly bandwith. 

But info about daily limit is well buried in their ToS.

Tf you try to fill full advertised space, your account will get blocked for some puny reason: cpu usage, max hits achieved, etc.

To choose servage or not?
You decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pros: Cheap, huge space<br />
Cons: Everything else</p>
<p>If you have more than one website hosted there, or multiple domains/subdomains, if only one of them reach daily transfer limit, your full account with all domains will get blocked  for full 24 hrs without possibility to enable it within &#8220;punish&#8221; time.<br />
It&#8217;s not possible to setup different bandwith or capacity quota per domain, mail or ftp account. Their support is arrogant, they lie, and they often offer only empty phrases for answer. If you can reach em.<br />
For last 5 days I cant login to my account, passwords are somehow changed and their password resetting system is broken. I cant fill ticket because I cannot login.<br />
If I use my default mail for contact I got automated reply that my mail is already in their database so that I rather fill online ticket.<br />
I cant call them  because they don&#8217;t have (LOL) telephone number.<br />
Their security is almost non existent. People reporting hacked sites non stop, slow databases, slow loading, bad support all around.<br />
If you need site to brag with storage capacity use Servage, otherwise avoid like plague.</p>
<p>Servage will let you down when you need it most, like what happened to me today: I cannot upload my work: 600mb big interactive CD for my client because I cant log into my account or FTP, and that&#8217;s main reason why I paid for servage host.</p>
<p>Several months ago I made and deployed one flash game for my online gaming community (EVE online) into servage.<br />
I suffered slash dot effect, bandwith got sucked and they blocked it for 24 hrs.<br />
I even offered them money for extra bandwith, but they just said: not possible.<br />
That flash game was made special for big patch day for that game, which lasted 24 hrs and it went offline 4 hrs after deployment. So my several days of work was almost wasted.</p>
<p>They advertise huge monthly bandwith. </p>
<p>But info about daily limit is well buried in their ToS.</p>
<p>Tf you try to fill full advertised space, your account will get blocked for some puny reason: cpu usage, max hits achieved, etc.</p>
<p>To choose servage or not?<br />
You decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Nsecure</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-13006</link>
		<dc:creator>Nsecure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi mate,

I am now the guy with the shitty end of the stick. I am so sorry I hosted with this company.

Here is my thread on webhostingtalk.com.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=715028</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mate,</p>
<p>I am now the guy with the shitty end of the stick. I am so sorry I hosted with this company.</p>
<p>Here is my thread on webhostingtalk.com.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=715028" rel="nofollow">http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=715028</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-12096</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,

Generally speaking this depends on what you mean by "busy" and the architecture of your site as they do specifically limit the number of queries and amount of bandwidth per day . As you're currently using Servage and are thus in the same boat as me I'd simply advise always having backups ready, such that at the point that your site "takes off" or worst case is suspended you can simply move it to a dedicated server or quality VPS and carry on. Any caching you can do to reduce the number of queries / processing and just serve up static HTML pages will help you fly under the radar of any issues to an extent.

Certain things such as the inability to access MTA logs, the expirations of messages stored on the mail server after set periods and the lack of proper statistics means I'll probably be paying a bit more and moving to a VPS come my own renewal. If there was just a little more control of the above I'd be able to recommend servage as a good "stepping stone" to a dedi (provided you don't need support) but as it is, I can't :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,</p>
<p>Generally speaking this depends on what you mean by &#8220;busy&#8221; and the architecture of your site as they do specifically limit the number of queries and amount of bandwidth per day . As you&#8217;re currently using Servage and are thus in the same boat as me I&#8217;d simply advise always having backups ready, such that at the point that your site &#8220;takes off&#8221; or worst case is suspended you can simply move it to a dedicated server or quality VPS and carry on. Any caching you can do to reduce the number of queries / processing and just serve up static HTML pages will help you fly under the radar of any issues to an extent.</p>
<p>Certain things such as the inability to access MTA logs, the expirations of messages stored on the mail server after set periods and the lack of proper statistics means I&#8217;ll probably be paying a bit more and moving to a VPS come my own renewal. If there was just a little more control of the above I&#8217;d be able to recommend servage as a good &#8220;stepping stone&#8221; to a dedi (provided you don&#8217;t need support) but as it is, I can&#8217;t <img src='http://blog.rowancrane.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-11980</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about to launch a website and the goal is of course to get a busy site with lots of users....

At the moment I am using servage, but after having read your posts I am a bit scared to use Servage for my website...

Which (affordable) host should I choose that won't suspend my account or mess anything up for me, if I get heavy user traffic on my website?

Thanks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about to launch a website and the goal is of course to get a busy site with lots of users&#8230;.</p>
<p>At the moment I am using servage, but after having read your posts I am a bit scared to use Servage for my website&#8230;</p>
<p>Which (affordable) host should I choose that won&#8217;t suspend my account or mess anything up for me, if I get heavy user traffic on my website?</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Campbell</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-10568</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awful Awful .....

I have used Servage for a few years  to host domains, currently ten. These have all dissapeared. No information from them, I found out via a friend.

When I asked them about it their response was "we have had a problem with our storage, you have to restore from your own backups". 

I´m now looking elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awful Awful &#8230;..</p>
<p>I have used Servage for a few years  to host domains, currently ten. These have all dissapeared. No information from them, I found out via a friend.</p>
<p>When I asked them about it their response was &#8220;we have had a problem with our storage, you have to restore from your own backups&#8221;. </p>
<p>I´m now looking elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: gestroud</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>gestroud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been with Servage.net for 3 months, as of February 2008. My sites have been innaccessible 5 times during that period. Entire sites were "unable to be found on the server. SITES, not files.

Responses to support tickets say, "We're aware of the problem. Please be patient." 

Once I couldn't access any sites for over 8 hours.

Whenever I have asked them what caused the problem, I get no response.

There are also frequent database connection problems.

Another negative is their 5-day money back guarantee. There is no pro-rating. Once you sign up with them, you're stuck - unless you get smart and decide to change hosts.

I am changing hosts.

Bottom line. Servage is a webmaster's nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with Servage.net for 3 months, as of February 2008. My sites have been innaccessible 5 times during that period. Entire sites were &#8220;unable to be found on the server. SITES, not files.</p>
<p>Responses to support tickets say, &#8220;We&#8217;re aware of the problem. Please be patient.&#8221; </p>
<p>Once I couldn&#8217;t access any sites for over 8 hours.</p>
<p>Whenever I have asked them what caused the problem, I get no response.</p>
<p>There are also frequent database connection problems.</p>
<p>Another negative is their 5-day money back guarantee. There is no pro-rating. Once you sign up with them, you&#8217;re stuck - unless you get smart and decide to change hosts.</p>
<p>I am changing hosts.</p>
<p>Bottom line. Servage is a webmaster&#8217;s nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: you</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-4795</link>
		<dc:creator>you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan, sorry to hear of your bad experience. Did they suspend the one domain / database with the heavy traffic or your entire account? I think many of us would be interested in this point.

I'd add a slight caveat, working for a webhost I know that any account is ALWAYS at risk of suspension should it use a disproportionate amount of resources / host insecure scripts / get compromised by a third party. None of my sites currently (including this one) are that busy or that important, but I'd certainly be forking out for a dedi as soon as one does simply for piece of mind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan, sorry to hear of your bad experience. Did they suspend the one domain / database with the heavy traffic or your entire account? I think many of us would be interested in this point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add a slight caveat, working for a webhost I know that any account is ALWAYS at risk of suspension should it use a disproportionate amount of resources / host insecure scripts / get compromised by a third party. None of my sites currently (including this one) are that busy or that important, but I&#8217;d certainly be forking out for a dedi as soon as one does simply for piece of mind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-4789</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hosting account at servage.net and it turned out to be a big SCAM, they took my money and suspended my 

account.
Reason: " At this time today our servers have 
served more than 428456 requests for your account."
That's nowhere in the terms of service, and they even don't want to refund me.

This service is only ok for small websites, when you have more than 200-300 users daily, they will surly suspend the 

account to keep their servers running.

They RUINED my growing traffic with this!!

I advice other hosting purchaser to STAY AWAY from servage if you want a professional and reliable hosting service 

and not a service that shuts down your service when they want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hosting account at servage.net and it turned out to be a big SCAM, they took my money and suspended my </p>
<p>account.<br />
Reason: &#8221; At this time today our servers have<br />
served more than 428456 requests for your account.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s nowhere in the terms of service, and they even don&#8217;t want to refund me.</p>
<p>This service is only ok for small websites, when you have more than 200-300 users daily, they will surly suspend the </p>
<p>account to keep their servers running.</p>
<p>They RUINED my growing traffic with this!!</p>
<p>I advice other hosting purchaser to STAY AWAY from servage if you want a professional and reliable hosting service </p>
<p>and not a service that shuts down your service when they want to.</p>
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		<title>By: you</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-4630</link>
		<dc:creator>you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think load is somewhat relative to the power of the machine/ number of CPUs, although as you say 16 is probably a bit too high. 

The speed has definitely improved since I started with them although I started turning off the php acceleration stuff straight away some time ago on new domains / virtualhosts as bizarrely this was causing serious slowdowns (haven't tested it recently mind).

I think my requirements are somewhat high, I wouldn't go with a shared host that didn't offer mod_rewrite and basic htaccess configuration.  The flip side of the coin I suppose is that whilst the ability to configure those options is good for script compatibility, its not always great for service stability.

With performance as it currently is however they're a good replacement uptime wise for normal non clustered shared hosting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think load is somewhat relative to the power of the machine/ number of CPUs, although as you say 16 is probably a bit too high. </p>
<p>The speed has definitely improved since I started with them although I started turning off the php acceleration stuff straight away some time ago on new domains / virtualhosts as bizarrely this was causing serious slowdowns (haven&#8217;t tested it recently mind).</p>
<p>I think my requirements are somewhat high, I wouldn&#8217;t go with a shared host that didn&#8217;t offer mod_rewrite and basic htaccess configuration.  The flip side of the coin I suppose is that whilst the ability to configure those options is good for script compatibility, its not always great for service stability.</p>
<p>With performance as it currently is however they&#8217;re a good replacement uptime wise for normal non clustered shared hosting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.rowancrane.com/2007/03/01/servagenet-review/comment-page-1#comment-4622</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've worked with people on many shared hosts, and Servage must be the best as far as programmers are concerned: unlike on many hosts, there's full .htacess, mod_rewrite and ability to turn register globals off, etc.

Also, I have rarely seen the server load (usually 0.5 to 0.9) go above 1 whereas in comparison GoDaddy websites are consistently at load 4 to *16*!

All the PHP scripts seem to run extremely fast, but I admit I haven't used a great deal of MySQL with Servage yet.

As far as shared hosting goes, they're not bad at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked with people on many shared hosts, and Servage must be the best as far as programmers are concerned: unlike on many hosts, there&#8217;s full .htacess, mod_rewrite and ability to turn register globals off, etc.</p>
<p>Also, I have rarely seen the server load (usually 0.5 to 0.9) go above 1 whereas in comparison GoDaddy websites are consistently at load 4 to *16*!</p>
<p>All the PHP scripts seem to run extremely fast, but I admit I haven&#8217;t used a great deal of MySQL with Servage yet.</p>
<p>As far as shared hosting goes, they&#8217;re not bad at all.</p>
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